Homosexuality and Christianity

	Duration: 10:45 minutes Upload Time: 2007-06-23 19:32:10 User: ProfMTH :::: Favorites :::: Top Videos of Day
Description: In recognition of Gay Pride Month as well as in response to some videos by Stephanreyu, a gay-friendly Christian here on YouTube, some thoughts about homosexuality and Christianity. Here are links to a couple of Stephanreyu's videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP3tmXQ0ii0 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-_Mi1mf7-4 .
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NephilimFree ::: Favorites  2007-09-10 14:55:35 Jesus Christ said this: Jude.1 [7] Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Fornication and strange flesh means sexual gratification outside marriage and unnatural sex. Please tell us how it does not mean this. __________________________________________________
NephilimFree ::: Favorites  2007-09-10 14:56:50 Did Jesus not say: Jude.1 [7] Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. ??? __________________________________________________
ProfMTH ::: Favorites  2007-09-10 14:56:59 I'm an atheist, NephilimFree. I don't recognize the Bible's claim to authority, but rather I examine what it says on the merits. __________________________________________________
NephilimFree ::: Favorites  2007-09-10 14:58:47 Do you propose that your opinion about homosexuality being condemned overturns the words of Jesus Christ? If Christ appeared to you right now, would you tell him that your opinion is more important than word? __________________________________________________
ProfMTH ::: Favorites  2007-09-10 15:00:30 Once again, as I note in the video (and explain in somewhat more detail in a subsequent video) the story itself describes a gang rape scenario -- specifically, the threatened gang rape of two angels (or divine persons, depending on how one understands the story) disguised as human males. Same-sex rape is no more descriptive of homosexuality than opposite-sex rape is descriptive of heterosexuality. By the way, when did Jesus become the author of Jude's epistle? __________________________________________________
ProfMTH ::: Favorites  2007-09-10 15:01:03 No, someone who identifies himself as Jude wrote that. __________________________________________________
NephilimFree ::: Favorites  2007-09-10 15:04:11 "I'm an atheist, NephilimFree" No, you are not. You are a liar. Your claim of atheism is an excuese you use to try to justify your own homosexuality, which is clearly sinful. You think you fool people, but you don't. You only reveal yourself with your anti-God fervor in discussing homosexuality. Goodbye. __________________________________________________
ProfMTH ::: Favorites  2007-09-10 15:04:13 Once again, I'm an atheist. Jesus won't be appearing to me or anyone else, so I'm not the least bit concerned about the possibility of his appearing to me. I've examined the Bible's condemnation of homosexuality on its merits and found it to be wrong. __________________________________________________
ProfMTH ::: Favorites  2007-09-10 15:05:25 LOL!! __________________________________________________
Stephanreyu ::: Favorites  2007-09-17 11:00:27 I'll tell you. The greek phrase "sarkos heteras" is translated "strange flesh". The same adjective "sarkos" is used in Acts to describe "foriegn and heavenly" tongues. Since the male angles were both "foreign" and "heavenly", then Jude is obviously speaking of angel/human sex, not male/male sex. Look it up. __________________________________________________
Stephanreyu ::: Favorites  2007-09-17 11:04:29 "Heteras" is the adjective, that is. "Sarkos" is "flesh". __________________________________________________
BeatBuddy ::: Favorites  2007-09-21 20:55:47 I would love to hear you justify, strictly by rational means, and I don't mean religious bias cloaked in secular garb, your anti-homosexual position. You can't do it. All you can do is tell us something is wrong because a book says so. Poor argument. Here is the opportunity to put your intelligence, that is if you have any, to the test. __________________________________________________
BeatBuddy ::: Favorites  2007-09-21 20:58:37 The Bible is very unclear on homosexuality, and even if it were crystal clear, my response is, so what? Is the clarity rational? There is no objective standard by which homosexuality is condemned in the Bible. All passages are within the contexts of idolatry, cultic restriction, and abusive behavior. Read your Bible carefully next time. __________________________________________________
ProfMTH ::: Favorites  2007-09-22 02:41:46 To whom is that comment directed, BeatBuddy? __________________________________________________
MySecretPumkin ::: Favorites  2007-09-22 03:26:24 In Matthew 19:4-6, Jesus is quoting Genesis chapter 2 when responding to the Pharisees' question about divorcing a wife. Nowhere does Jesus indicate that every man must have a wife in order to fulfill the law of God. Jesus is speaking of what follows if a man chooses to take a wife. He affirms the moral truth that our relationships with other people require responsibility, not convenience. __________________________________________________